subsidies, more subsidies for wind, solar and wind thermal energy. ee research for biofuel and natural gas cars. redesign america's high schools. a new foreign aid initiative. research for brain disease and clean energy and universal preschool. these are expensive. the last one alone the president's favorite liberal think tank the centerrer for american progress issued a proposal a few days ago foreshadowing the president's mention of it in his state of the union and said it would cost $25 billion a year when fully operated. we are talking about a hundred billion dollars a year in additional spending if the president's proposals are enacted and we are at deficit, we don't have the money for it. the question is, can we afford it as a country? jon: you heard with regard to that universal pre daycare kind of thing, universal pre kindergarten thing of thing the president said that forever dollar you spend on that kind of a program you get something like $14 back. >> that's how we justify everything. the president justified the stimulus by saying if we sp